the only time it didn't work was miami spread us out and hurt us aá?jlittle but we shoul have won that football game. because what we did offensively. >> just getting older and older and further and further away. let's talk about the big figures of that team. quarterback jim mcmahon. talk about his problem with authority figures and your own problem with authority figures. can you expand more on that? >> well, i think jim did have a problem. him and i are good friends now. some of the best. i really have great respect and admiration. i had that as player for him. he didn't like authority. he didn't like it from his parents. didn't like to at byu or from me. he was a rebel. but he was that old movie rebel without a cause, i could never figure out what the cause was. i didn't know what he was mad about. >> we identify a little bit about with that. >> we have gone that road. and so there were times we would butt heads. but we only butted heads and then it was over and then we when on about doing the things right for the football team. >> you are a believe